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Converter 1.4XE
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jotloob
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Thomas
The converter 3020608 can only be used with lenses from 100mm focal length and longer .
If you try to use that converter with other lenses , you will destroy the rear lens element of the lens and the front lens of the converter .
I have used the converter with my CFE180 and the results are pretty good .
I have currently no images to show , but I believe the IQ rectifies the price for the converter .
The weight is 235 gramms and there is always a place in your jacket or trouser pocket .
The converter 3020608 can only be used with lenses from 100mm focal length and longer .
If you try to use that converter with other lenses , you will destroy the rear lens element of the lens and the front lens of the converter .
I have used the converter with my CFE180 and the results are pretty good .
I have currently no images to show , but I believe the IQ rectifies the price for the converter .
The weight is 235 gramms and there is always a place in your jacket or trouser pocket .
Yes, I know the converter can only be used with lenses from 100mm or longer.
By the way, as I have a 203FE body, does the LCD display in the finder show the real aperture value or the one selected on the lens when an E-type lens & a XE converter are used together (e.g. with the 1.4XE converter, if 8 is selected, does the LCD display show 11 or 8)?
By the way, as I have a 203FE body, does the LCD display in the finder show the real aperture value or the one selected on the lens when an E-type lens & a XE converter are used together (e.g. with the 1.4XE converter, if 8 is selected, does the LCD display show 11 or 8)?
polypal
Active Member
Good question!
I did not get a chance to test that situation yet because I do not have the Hasselblad converter but use the early Mutar made by Zeiss.
These early converters do not have databus.
I suppose the true aperture is indicated but the camera takes into account that the converter causes 1 stop loss of light and shows/sets the shutterspeed depending on manual or auto mode selected on the camera.
I did not get a chance to test that situation yet because I do not have the Hasselblad converter but use the early Mutar made by Zeiss.
These early converters do not have databus.
I suppose the true aperture is indicated but the camera takes into account that the converter causes 1 stop loss of light and shows/sets the shutterspeed depending on manual or auto mode selected on the camera.
simonpg
Active Member
Thomas I hesitated buying mine but the price was so good I thought it worth the chance.
Simple answer is that in general the 1.4XE is very well regarded as being sharp and not degrading the prime lens's performance to any real visible degree.
Sure the 1.4XE on a 250mm lens is not as good an image as a standalone 350mm lens. But then how could it be.
So again "different horse for a different course!"
What is for certain - if you must limit the kit you take out, then having the 1.4xe is an excellent choice - a 2 lens kit becomes a 3 lens kit!
The images I have shot with it are hard to identify from any weakness.
Simple answer is that in general the 1.4XE is very well regarded as being sharp and not degrading the prime lens's performance to any real visible degree.
Sure the 1.4XE on a 250mm lens is not as good an image as a standalone 350mm lens. But then how could it be.
So again "different horse for a different course!"
What is for certain - if you must limit the kit you take out, then having the 1.4xe is an excellent choice - a 2 lens kit becomes a 3 lens kit!
The images I have shot with it are hard to identify from any weakness.
blowupster
Member
Not bad with the 180mm as this lens is excellent allready at 4.0 in the center.
Optical performance of this lens is better than what is nedded for normal film (Technical Pan is not as normal !) so with a excellent 1.4x it must be OK.
Optical performance of this lens is better than what is nedded for normal film (Technical Pan is not as normal !) so with a excellent 1.4x it must be OK.
simonpg
Active Member
A very interesting aspect of the 1.4XE is that I understand that it was made by Fujinon, rather than Zeiss.
That has intrigued me since I would have expected it more logical that Hasselblad would have preferred its lens maker (Zeiss) "match" the glass / optical characteristics of the 1.4XE with its suite of lenses that it would be fitted to.
That has intrigued me since I would have expected it more logical that Hasselblad would have preferred its lens maker (Zeiss) "match" the glass / optical characteristics of the 1.4XE with its suite of lenses that it would be fitted to.
Thanks to everybody for your replies!
In fact, I just purchased a 2XE from KEH and received it yesterday. I tried it with my CFE 180/4. Indeed, the real aperture does not appear in the LCD display in the finder : it shows the value of the selected aperture on the lens. But, the lightmeter determines the correct shutterspeed.
In fact, I just purchased a 2XE from KEH and received it yesterday. I tried it with my CFE 180/4. Indeed, the real aperture does not appear in the LCD display in the finder : it shows the value of the selected aperture on the lens. But, the lightmeter determines the correct shutterspeed.
simonpg
Active Member
Yes Paul it was also my understanding that Zeiss both supplied the glass and made the Mutars and Hasselblad made the 1.4EX BUT I read somewhere some years ago that Fuji's Fujinon did the lens itself. Nordin would be able to confirm the glass supplier I'm sure.
Thomas, the readings you are getting are logically to be expected - keep in mind this: while the 2x causes a loss of 2 stops of light, the lens itself is still shooting/optically performing at the selected aperture.
At that selected lens aperture the extender is causing a loss of light - NOT a different aperture - just the equivalent of 2 aperture stops less.
Thus optically it is the selected aperture that will determine the actual depth of field despite the loss of 2 stops of light - i.e. at f5,6 you will get the equivalent of f11 light value BUT the DOF of the selected f5,6 perture.
Unfortunately people use the expression "loss of 2 stops" causing many to think it is performing at a different aperture than selected; whereas an expression of: "a loss of the equivalent to 2 stops of light" is a more exact expression.
A similar misunderstanding is caused with "cropped sensors" and lens focal lengths. Some people think their 50mm lens performs as a 75mm lens when the sensor crop factor is 1.3. But although the angle of view is narrowed to the "equivalent view of 75mm" the lens's optical performance such as DOF remains the same as a 50mm - the 50mm lens is always a 50mm lens!
Thomas, the readings you are getting are logically to be expected - keep in mind this: while the 2x causes a loss of 2 stops of light, the lens itself is still shooting/optically performing at the selected aperture.
At that selected lens aperture the extender is causing a loss of light - NOT a different aperture - just the equivalent of 2 aperture stops less.
Thus optically it is the selected aperture that will determine the actual depth of field despite the loss of 2 stops of light - i.e. at f5,6 you will get the equivalent of f11 light value BUT the DOF of the selected f5,6 perture.
Unfortunately people use the expression "loss of 2 stops" causing many to think it is performing at a different aperture than selected; whereas an expression of: "a loss of the equivalent to 2 stops of light" is a more exact expression.
A similar misunderstanding is caused with "cropped sensors" and lens focal lengths. Some people think their 50mm lens performs as a 75mm lens when the sensor crop factor is 1.3. But although the angle of view is narrowed to the "equivalent view of 75mm" the lens's optical performance such as DOF remains the same as a 50mm - the 50mm lens is always a 50mm lens!
simonpg
Active Member
Yes Paul that is my experience - hence my view above that the lens attached to the 1.4XE retains its focal length attributes.
At first I thought they might change since there is glass lens in the 1.4XE and this might make the attached lens alter its optical characteristics. But I have seen no such change. I'm happy for anyone to correct me on that, but it is my experience when using the 1.4XE
At first I thought they might change since there is glass lens in the 1.4XE and this might make the attached lens alter its optical characteristics. But I have seen no such change. I'm happy for anyone to correct me on that, but it is my experience when using the 1.4XE