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First results from the new CFV 39 part 2

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Brad,

All the photos are at iso 100,
All using the C120 macro,
CWD camera body with remote control winder,
shutter speeds of between 125/1 and 250/1
tripod mounted
All at f5.6

All the pictures taken for the purpose of seeing the resolution of the CFV39.

Thanks Brad
 
bradleygibson said:
Saad has very generously provided us with more raw files from the CFV-39.
I make them available with Saad's kind permission for HasselbladInfo members.
Enjoy!
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I do not know if these are all C120 Macro at f/5.6 @ ISO 400, or if they vary--Saad, can you provide the details?
Best regards,
-Brad
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Brad and saad .

Thanks for making these images available .
I have downloaded the four 3FR files yesterday and have already looked at them in some detail .
I am very much surprised about the resolution . The images look very promising and I will do some croping and printing today .

Jürgen
 
Hi, Jurgen,

Yes the quality of the fine detail from the CFV-39 is something that struck me as well. I don't know if it was because I was comparing them to the CFV-16 initially, or that the Hasselblad lenses are outperforming those of my previous system (Contax with Zeiss and Phase One P45+), but I did not expect to be "impressed" by the resolution of a 39-megapixel back (since I am used to one), but here I am.

Based on this early evidence, the V-system is doing very well in the world of digital! Great to see.

Best regards,
-Brad
 
bradleygibson said:
Based on this early evidence, the V-system is doing very well in the world of digital! Great to see.

Best regards,
-Brad
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You are not the only one who is surprised here.
There must be quite a few people in Denmark and Sweden to share your surpise!


Paul
 
polypal said:
You are not the only one who is surprised here.
There must be quite a few people in Denmark and Sweden to share your surpise!


Paul
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And that is not generally a good thing for a company, not knowing where customer demand might be..
 
wbulte said:
And that is not generally a good thing for a company, not knowing where customer demand might be..
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Oh, I think Hasselblad knows exactly what they are doing ... times get tough with the economy, and suddenly there's a new CFV ... new income from existing tech for a 50 year old camera system.

Crazy like a fox they are.
 
I have been working on two of the images from Saad and did some big crops .
The printed results are more than satisfying .
They show more than I expected . Surprising details . Great . Very good resolution .
I have a project to shoot extreme details on my beloved junk yard , where I will use the CARL ZEISS CFE MAKRO PLANAR (+ the E16 extension tube) and only that combination .
So , all I am missing now is the CFV-39 .

Jürgen
 
Hasselblad knows exactly what they are doing.
That does not take away the fact that the CFV sells far better than what they expected.

Lets enjoy this new impulse for the V series and maybe some newly designed lenses are to follow.
A new 120 CFE would be a great prospect.
Think of the 120 APO Makro lens Zeiss designed for the Contax 645.
That would mean a leap forward for the V series.


Paul
 
polypal said:
You are not the only one who is surprised here.
There must be quite a few people in Denmark and Sweden to share your surpise!
Paul
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I'm not surprised the V is doing well--I knew it would! (I had begun designing a modification to allow the P45+ to work with the 203FE).

I was more surprised at the IQ of the CFV-39--it seems to render detail very well, and that ISO 800 performance was just TOTALLY unexpected... :)

As for new lenses, they could really use some new teles! Everthing is either a reasonable Tele-Tessar (no, thanks) or a $$$$$$ Tele-SuperAchromat!! No middle of the road whatsoever. Ouch!

-Brad
 
polypal said:
Hasselblad knows exactly what they are doing.
That does not take away the fact that the CFV sells far better than what they expected.

Lets enjoy this new impulse for the V series and maybe some newly designed lenses are to follow.
A new 120 CFE would be a great prospect.
Think of the 120 APO Makro lens Zeiss designed for the Contax 645.
That would mean a leap forward for the V series.

Paul
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I think the trick these days should be to minimise engineering effort in product development. Worked for the CFV/CFV39, could also work for the Apo Makro I would think.

"Easy money" in a sense, which is not a bad thing in the current economy.

Wilko
 
What for me was amazing about the resolution of those 4 pictures was that it was taken with the first Hasselblad lens I owned, it was purchased almost 30 years ago together with the Lunar Edition of the ELM, then I was just a little boy :). I think for resolution and bokeh it will outperform my new CFE120 at f5.6 at 1:5 magnification and below.

If Zeiss bring out a new 120 Macro with the same MTF as the Contax 120 and with 12 aperture blades for supreme bokeh, I would buy it in a flash.

Jurgen, when I was taking those pictures I very much had you in the back of my mind, knowing how you like taking pictures of decaying or rusting machinery. I also like it.
 
Saad,

The 120 S-Planar is one of my favorite lenses for a number of reasons.
Like you I own one longer than I care to remember.
I am time and time impressed by the results that lens gave me.

The ball is very much in the hands of Hasselblad to take the initiative for a new line of lenses.
Given the warm reception the CFV39 got it must give Hasselblad enough confidence to invest in a new line of lenses for the V series.
I am sure that idea will be welcomed by Carl Zeiss in Germany.


Paul
 
The promising early results seen from the CFV-39 warm my heart too.....I feel even better now about the investment I've made over the past year in 8 CFi/CFE lenses.

Now if I could only find an extra $14k for the CFV-39 itself. :-(

It really is a good feeling to know there is a way to take my V-system to the "next level", once the funds become available.

I'm sure I speak for all V-system owners when I say to the engineering, marketing and management folks at Hasselblad....thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Gary
 
Samaco

Hi everyone, I'm new in here (see the "introduce yourself" thread).
As I'm interested in buying a CFV back, I found your comments and discussions very helpful.

Especially thanks for the provided original files from cfv22 and cfv39. As I expected, the cfv39 is better concerning details (see attached jpgs, "Samanco" is now clearly readable, unfortuately my arabic is too bad to be able reading the first row!).

But I wonder if this difference plays a rol, if I, as an amateur, would rarely print larger than A2 (16")?

Perhaps it would be better saving some 1000 Euros by purchasing a cfv22 and investing the difference in a better printer, a lot of ink and paper???

Thanks for the files, Saad and Bradley.
Thanks for the very welcome, Jürgen.

By the way, I found some cfv-files on flickr, see
http://fiveprime.org/flickr_hvmnd.cgi
click on 'tags' and fill in: hasselblad,cfv, then 'search tags'

There are some examples of the combination of SWC and CFV, too, wich are downloadable in a rather large filesize (from"hassa", China)

I whish you a pleasant sunday evening, at least to the users in europe!

Ulrich

By the way, what did i do wrong that the pics are different in size, even if I scaled them in photoshop to the same size? (I'm new to photoshop)
 

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macmx said:
Interesting!
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Come on ...
spill the beans. Who cares if it's an unsubstantiated rumor.

I'm holding off buying anything for awhile, (except the M9).

I've sold my CVF-II and H3D-II/31, and am posting some more stuff for sale soon to build a war chest.

Bring it on!!!!!

A CFV-50/60? New lenses? A return to the 200 series camera with updated functions and a set of the AF lenses from Schneider (due to the demise of Rollei Hy6)? A replacement for the H3D-II?

WHAT?

WHAT?
 
I read macmx's comment to mean that a number of us who've bought these backs have been promised delivery by August 28th...

Just my interpretation, though... (Love the AF-Hassy 200 idea, Marc! :))
-Brad
 
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